While we don’t number our episodes, this one happens to be the 10th, was recorded with a live audience, AND it’s a Launch Party! In this episode, Dia shares the 3 Goal Types she sees in her work. Which one are you? Find out in this episode. Arthur and his wife Kat will also debut their new song for their new band, Big Surprise. We’ll be answering a few questions from the audience, too! We’d love to hear from you: what’s your goal type? Anything else you’d like to talk about on the show? Tell us by calling 341-333-2997.
While we don’t number our episodes, this one happens to be the 10th, was recorded with a live audience, AND it’s a Launch Party! In this episode, Dia shares the 3 Goal Types she sees in her work. Which one are you? Find out in this episode.
Arthur and his wife Kat will also debut their new song for their new band, Big Surprise. They play it live on the episode, and your ears will thank you--it’s beautiful.
We did a short exercise in this podcast episode. We reflected on and identified what kind of goals we center on--what our “Goal Type” is right now. Then we used the following prompt to stand up for it. You can use this prompt to take your goal type seriously, hold it as yours, and most importantly, and stand up for it when the world tells you that you should have some OTHER kind of goal:
Take a moment and complete these prompts:
“My Lead goal type right now is [fill in type: Experiential, Mastery or Recognition], and that’s important to me because [fill in blank].”
A quick breakdown of Goal Types:
Experiential Goals are goals that are about the experience you're having. For example, you might have a goal that is about going somewhere, being in a certain context, seeing something first hand, or experiencing a skill just enough to get competent at it (experience), and then you like to move on to the next one. Folks with this goal type, often like to do many things with some level of competence, but don’t care much about being THE BEST at one thing.
Mastery Goals are the type of goals that drive you to be masterful in one or a few things. If you are a Mastery Goal type, you don’t just want to pluck at a guitar and learn to play a few of your favorite songs; you want to own that thing you play. If you are an engineer, you don’t just want to learn an engineering language; you want to have full mastery of it. You are driven to be an expert. Folks with this goal type are happy being an individual contributor in their company and known as the “expert” in their craft or topic.
Recognition Goals are the goals that signal achievements that are recognized by the world. You want to win the Gold Medal. You want to gain that title in your career. You want to have your name in stone. Folks with this goal type aren’t satisfied until they get that recognition in a formal way. It lets you have a clear badge that says, “You did it!” Embrace this goal type. Maybe you just can’t rest until you get that “Director” title next to your name, or you want to put “Author” next to your professional bio. These signals are not small, and they can drive you to grow.
We’d love to hear from you: what’s your goal type? Anything else you’d like to talk about on the show? Tell us by calling 341-333-2997.
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Unknown Speaker 0:02
Alright everybody, we hope everybody's doing well tonight and thank you for joining us on the Dr. Bondi Show.
Unknown Speaker 0:32
Hey, everyone, welcome to the Dr. Bondi show a big podcast for women with goals. We are here to help you ask for more and get it. Resource your dreams so you can get to your goals faster and have an absolute blast doing it because the process matters. I'm so happy tonight to be joined by my on air bestie Leon, Arthur Leon see I can never do it if I don't just say baby a right welcome baby. A love seeing you here. Love always seeing you here. Oh,
Unknown Speaker 1:00
yeah, it's always great to be here. idea. And hi, everybody who's joining us.
Unknown Speaker 1:04
Hey, Arthur. See, I came to do it again. Arthur Leon Adams. The third is here are on air producer. But we're also joined by his sidekick, his musician bestie and his wife, cat. Adams.
Unknown Speaker 1:17
I was gonna say you can just call him my husband from now on. Yeah, I'm cat's husband. That's right. That's right way to do it. Cat. I'm so happy to have you with us tonight. I'm so happy to have you here. Nice to see you. Thank you for having me. I'm so happy to be here.
Unknown Speaker 1:32
And what folks don't know is that you know, yes, Arthur, you know, crafted all the music for everyone, for me and for everyone in this show. But he also, you know, like cat, you were instrumental in early conversations about the vibe of the show with the content would be what it was for conversations about the language around it. You also are a great creative partner to me, as we were putting together what this whole thing was going to be all about. So thank you so much gratitude for that. Yeah. Love it. So So let's see, what are we talking about today? Um, I am just happy to be here. We're doing this. We're having a live studio recording right now. So we've got folks on the line right now. Thank you for keeping your zoom connection muted so we can have a nice clean sound today. You'll have a chance to unmute at the end of the day, and at the end of our show, to do a little behind the scenes chitchat with me, but loving having you here with us. Anyhow. So there it is. What's going on for you today?
Unknown Speaker 2:31
Well, you know, we're doing this big thing. Yeah. Been working on it and prepping for it today. And, you know, one of the things that we're going to do today is Catan are going to play songs. And it's songs a couple songs that we wrote. And these songs are special, are they not? These songs are kind of special, they are special. We wrote them together, and they're there. We've been working on them and recording them for the last year or so.
Unknown Speaker 2:57
Yeah, it was a pandemic project. You know, I mean, it was always gonna be a project, but it became a pandemic project, because the pandemic happened, right. And so it was like, oh, we're gonna we're gonna make an album and a couple months, because then we're all gonna be
Unknown Speaker 3:11
Yeah, yeah, that was the thing. We're like, okay, we'll get this album done in three months, and then we'll get to play rock shows. In the fall.
Unknown Speaker 3:17
We are making an album and we do have stuff recorded, but the whole three months thing. Yeah. So that's okay. We're so happy to be an audience for you tonight. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker 3:26
so So the thing is, is that what we're doing is, today, we're gonna play songs that no one has ever really heard aside from our cats. Just awesome. The cat so
Unknown Speaker 3:35
so I so love it. Okay, so while you two are getting yourself set up, I'm going to talk a little bit about who, who, what we're going to do tonight. Excellent. Okay, cool. So we are going to we're going to talk a little bit about the three goal types that seem to be useful when we're thinking about naming and claiming the goals that we have in our lives and in our careers and in our businesses, mostly lives and careers. I mean, business is a place where it plays out, but lives and careers. And then we're going to do a little ama we'll open it up for questions for folks to jump some questions right into the chat, so that we can keep everyone muted and keep the audio clean here. We all have a chance to ask questions about anything about the content tonight, but also about you know, anything having to do with what got us here other work that we're doing. If you've got questions, we'll try to answer them as best we can. And we're going to draw some prizes. We're at the end of our 10 day launch efforts. And with the great help of my team Olivia and, and BBA and everyone who's participated, we've been asking folks to do a couple of things to rate and review the podcast. So against visibility, as well as share with their friends and to show up tonight, and for those of you who did any of those things, you've been entered into a cool drawing and we're going to share with those what those are for you a little bit later. So that will be the show tonight. We're probably not going to go the whole hour but we're really happy to have you here today. And it looks to me like Arthur and cat, baby and cat are just about ready to rock you guys ready to rock everyone I am so pleased to have my friends play music for you and to have a little bit of heart and I want to say before we get started Can I just make a word here to say that this is an intense week there's a lot of stuff going on in the air we've got the the Shogun Derrick Shogun trial going on we've got changes everywhere you know uptick in, in Asian violence, violence against Asian families and communities and people we've got just, we've got so much in the air yet again this week and I just want to invite everyone in right now to come as you are to show up into this moment with one another and just try to have a little space to enjoy yourselves and to receive you know, the love and the art that Arthur and cat are about to share with us and to get to dream for ourselves for a little while so you are so welcome to be here as a place also to a little bit rest for the week. So are that Arthur to take it away All right. We're gonna play a song It's the first song we ever wrote together. All right. threads. Oh, man. We just came crashing. Right rise. They say lines. Drowning on drums. Say night sky, Bambi. calm.
Unknown Speaker 8:41
Ready. Range starts to die then. So proud. glorified to start. hemisphere temperatures below ground Graham grants rise the size lies, scream.
Unknown Speaker 10:53
claps love so much to hear my friends, there's nothing better. Yes, you can give us a clap emoji if you're watching. I'm just so uh, I love seeing my friends do what they love to do. And I love seeing the women, and you folks in this community who are following this podcast, and being part of the work that I'm doing, I love the opportunity to see you and hear you do what you love as well, because there is nothing more powerful than seeing you in your power. So, cat and baby, thank you so much for kicking us off with that beautiful, beautiful story you just told us and to have a little insight into the first song you wrote together is really beautiful. And Wonderful. Thank you for that. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, we love playing it, apparently, we can tell. And that's where the joy of watching my friends do what they love and what they're good at, really comes from for me. So thank you so much. So, um, we are, like I said at the end of a 10 day launch. And one of the most important things folks did during this time and can do is rate and review the show wherever they get their podcasts. And it really helps elevate the visibility of the show, it seems like a small thing to do, but it actually has a huge impact. And it makes it possible for other folks who would enjoy the show, who would it would help them have a blast trying to reach their goals. Enjoy the show and and bring it into their lives. And we got one review Actually, this last week that I'd like to read a big shout out to listener lens Gord and gore because what she said in this review is like, it really lit me up because it's so right on to like, what the show is about and what I'm about. And the work that I do is about and she says every time I listen to this is some embarrassing stuff in the first part, just so you know, she says, Every time I listened to do I feel fired up and motivated to take action. Oh, so nice. And she said what I love about our content is she's always tells it like it is I mean, that's true. And also while helping you find what actually feels aligned for you. And that's really the heart of what matters. I think in all the work I do that you that you can you can identify what matters to you. And you can act in ways that are in alignment with who you are as a way to bring that forward. She also says her advice is incredibly practical. It's incredibly thoughtful, thought provoking, and absolutely have you taking action. It's true, I do have a bias toward action and an action that feels good to you. So highly recommend taking a listen and getting inspired. So big ups to you lens Gore, thank you so much for taking the time to, to rate and review and also to say to say what, for her to articulate it that way is just so like, I don't know, just lights me up, Arthur. This
Unknown Speaker 13:41
is something that I say in every episode. But if you do, like, what, what's happening on the show, and you find it useful, and you get inspired by some of the things we say you know, what you should do is you should like, subscribe, review and share it. Wherever you get your podcasts with your friends. It helps so much. And also if you want to ask a question we do we sometimes answer user questions on the show, and you can give us a call at 341-333-2997 and leave a message and you might just hear your question answered on a future episode.
Unknown Speaker 14:15
You just might you just have to stay. You have to stay tuned, though, if that's gonna happen. Because you could send us a question and you know, you never know. You never know when it's gonna show up in the show.
Unknown Speaker 14:25
That's true. So you have to listen to every episode to make sure that you hear your question answered. Start to Finish. Yeah, full on. No, I'm just kidding. Yes. Great. Thank you for that, Arthur. So yeah, what are we doing here today?
Unknown Speaker 14:36
Well, today, I want to talk about a little bit more about goals because turns out and since launch, we have six episodes live at launch. Our most listened to episode is the one we titled How to goals when you don't have one. Interestingly, you know that this is a this is a big podcast for folks with goals and I kind of always assume they already have goals. And so they're coming to talk about their own goals, they're coming to listen to think about ways to, you know, enjoy getting to their goals for strategies to getting to their goals, but I realized that, you know, we're all working on, you know, maybe our goals are changing, they're evolving, they look different to us. Maybe we hate them next week, we love them. And and so I want to talk a little bit more about goals tonight. And I want to start by saying, you know, what, we always want what we don't what we don't have, do. I mean, there's like, not always, but there's a lot of like, I hear in my coaching circles around this work. And even with private private clients, sometimes there is a there's a there's sort of a desire or or there's, there's some attraction to other people's goals, like somehow the goals that I have aren't the right ones to have, and I should have the ones that other people have, because they're bigger, they're better, they're shiny, or they're somehow better than the ones that I have. But what what I do know is that when we, when we speak from who we truly are, we are more powerful we can we can we recognize what we really want, we can be more powerful in pursuing it. And I was in a coaching circuit measuring put my notes down, how about that, I'm just gonna put my notes down. I was in a, I hosted a coaching circle after a workshop I gave a month ago. And it was we all we all ended up talking about goals a lot. And they everyone in the room had one. But they kind of didn't like them, they would talk about them, and then sort of be like, Yeah, but I don't know if that's really like what I'm not really sure that that's the right kind of thing to have right now. I wish that I you know, I'm this kind of I have these kinds of goals right now, but I wish I had her kinds of goals. And I want to talk about the three kinds of goals that I noticed, we can all have. And we might have a combination of all of them, we might have, you know, one territory, one goal type that we really double down on across our lives, but I want to just name three goal types, so that you can name them for yourself and then claim them, fall in love with them, and then stand up for them instead of treating them like some sort of second class citizen in the territory of your life. Hashtag name it and claim it, name it and claim it's my favorite thing to do naming is so powerful, because when we name it, we can see it and then and then we can we can like pick it up and turn it around. It's a thing. Now it's a thing we can stand up for. So I want to talk about the three that I notice. And the first one is what I like to think of is experiential goals. This is actually the kind of goals that I led the first half of my career with, like only until the last couple of years, you know, did something else start to really emerge. But for me experiential goals. And for you this might be true as well. These are the these are the kinds of goals that are about experiences for us, that are goal setting are all about having different kinds of experiences, having a smorgasbord of experience to get to taste a lot of different things. One woman in my conversation in the coaching circle, I'm referencing she really had a she was like, I do this thing where I learned something too, I'm just good enough. And then I like kind of put it away and I go to the next thing. And I've been an architect and I've been a I've been a this and that she named like five different careers she's had by the time she's 35, none of that, you know, all of which helped kept moving her forward. But she feels like she keeps jump jumping tracks. But the truth is that every time she every time she got good at something enough, she had to put it down because she was looking for another experience because she enjoyed having a vast set of experiences. That was true for me. Early in my career. My goals were to travel everywhere, and to be in every possible nook and cranny on the planet doing work with lots of different kinds of people and lots of different kinds of tech of, of content context. So if your goals are ones where you feel like I just want to have a lot of different kinds of experiences, name it, claim it stand up for it, it's not the wrong kind of goal. It's a beautiful goal if it's yours, and you can name it and claim it and stand up for it.
Unknown Speaker 19:10
So that's one kind of goal. The second kind of goal is sort of different, it can overlap with this a little bit which which is something I think of as a mastery goal. I want to be the best at one thing in my life or career I want I don't just want to learn to play an instrument. I don't just want to learn to play the guitar and the banjo and a violin and the drums and and tastes a lot of different things. I want to be a master I want to be masterful in one instrument. I don't just want to learn to play chest and then also checkers and also monopoly I want to be a chess champion. These are the things where you want to be recognized recognized in the world as an as an expert at something you want to feel that sense of mastery over a particular domain. And that is a legit goal. How many women have come through my my work workshops and over the course of my career have have really, they've been happy to be an independent contractor or an independent contributor in their teams forever, but they go deep in one area, and they're known as an expert in that space. That's okay. If you love being a master in your space, those are legit goals. You don't have to manage other people, if you don't want to, you don't have to learn other skills, if they're not, if they're not relevant to increasing your mastery in your own space, you can just name and claim that mastery is my jam. The third kind of goal I think of is what I think of as like a recognition or an impact goal. This is the kind of goal I hear show up when somebody says to me, do I just woke up yesterday and I realized I want to be VP of Engineering and next five years, and I want to make a half a million dollars a year doing it. That's not to say that these are just about the earnings or just about the title, this is about these performance and recognition goals, these these chances to have the titles have the the income to have the recognition by the world of a particular domain that you don't not necessarily a master in but that you are the master of these are legit goals that if you wake up and you're like, I want to be director someday, name it, claim it and stand up for it.
Unknown Speaker 21:21
If you love mastery, and everyone's telling you Well, it's time to be a manager, it's time to ascend the corporate ladder. And you're like, No, I want to be an independent contributor forever being being an absolute badass in the thing that I do. And I want to find other ways to deepen my understanding of this particular domain and then have impact with it. Good for you fend off those urges, name it, claim it stand up for it. So these three gold types are the ones I noticed they fall into. And you might have in one part of your life. It's shifting for me now. It used to be really about experiences, I wanted to go here I wanted to go there, I wanted to see that I wanted to be in that context I wanted and I wanted somebody else to pay for it, by the way. And I spent 10 years on the road making that possible for myself. And now it's shifted, I've had a lot of experiences, my goal type is kind of shifting. Now maybe you're in a time where your goal type is shifting what you you know, ascension, or this last one, which we're calling recognition and impact goals might be one that was important to you for the last 20 years. And now you're realizing you want to pick something and be a master of it, maybe you want to you want to you want to broaden your horizon and, and accumulate as many different kinds of experiences as possible. That could be your new set of goals. So these aren't things that are fixed. But it when we recognize these buckets that they live in, we can name it, claim it and stand up for it and not make ourselves wrong for loving them. So here's what I'd like to offer to you. I'm going to ask the if folks or I know you might be busy while you're listening, cooking dinner or doing something else as you're here on our launch party. I know it's evening time for us right here in the West. But I'd like to drop a poll right now. And and ask you, what goal type Do you think you mostly are? What gold type Do you think you most likely are? And I'm going to ask you to just pick one. This is this will be an anonymous response. So if you can respond to the survey right there, that would be great. Well, gold type, are you? And all answers are right. By the way, mostly mastery goals. Are you mostly recognition and impact goals that you want to gain recognized recognizable authority in a particular domain, or you feel like you lead mostly with experiential goals, that life is a buffet and you want to experience lots of different things. So we'll let those coming in. It looks like 40 to 40 looks like mostly mastery, and mostly experiential goals are winning out right now. For those of you who are taking the poll, I love seeing that I'm going to close the poll now in 54321. I'm going to end the poll and share these results right here. It looks like half of you were saying mostly mostly mastery goals. Awesome. 7% of you are saying mostly recognition that you that you know that you want to gain recognizable authority in particular domain and and then 43% of you say mostly experiential, that life is absolutely a buffet. So that's what those look like, great. All those answers are right, and you could be having an appetite for goals that cross all those three territories, perfectly fine named them, claim them stand up for them, they can play together well with each other as as well. So here's my offer to you. If you can use this little phrase, to think about caring for prioritizing and making the goal that you have important to you so that you can stand up for it. And so here's the little prompt that might help you. I don't know integrate that goal that you have into your actual, you know, into your actual life. Stand up for it. If you feel like you, there's pressure for you to have a different kind of goal. So here's what it got. Here's how it goes. The phrase goes like this, you could write this down, and we can put it in the show notes as well, in case folks later when we publish the episode, I want to go back and use this prompt. So it goes like this. My LEED Gold type right now is, and then fill that in which one of the three? And that's important to me, because and then fill that in? My LEED Gold type right now is you can fill it in. And that's important to me right now, because so I'm curious, Arthur, BBA, what do you think your LEED Gold type is? And if you were going to do the prompt, how would it sound?
Unknown Speaker 25:45
Yeah, we were just talking about it. We're trying to decide what it might be for either of us, but I don't know I, I've always been a like, jack of some trades master a few. And so I never really cared about mastery of anything, necessarily. So maybe, maybe the second one, like I wanted to, I always wanted to have some sort of career in music and have some sort of a recognizable authority. And I guess,
Unknown Speaker 26:14
yeah, I mean, I think that I see that in you. And even like, even though I do see all the time, you know, you you have I mean? I mean, your house is full of all kinds of different musical instruments. You have broad tastes in music, which we've talked about on this show, and we've talked about at length many different times. But you also, I do also see you like, you know, naming and claiming like that, you know that to be a recognizable voice in the domain of music. Yeah, I that's resonant for me. How about you cap? Yeah,
Unknown Speaker 26:44
I mean, this is such a great question. I love this. Because I mean, I think that that for many of us, we are like, oh, but it's all of them. You know, and I think I think that what you said about how our goals change over the years really, really resonated with me, because mine definitely have and I have fought them at various times. So you know, I think that that for a long time, I was going for experiences, mostly because they were just happening to me, but then at a certain point, I was like, Okay, okay, well, if I get recognition for what I do, and how great I am at this, or that, which is, you know, a very, very small pool of things, you know, then that will lead me to the next thing, and then I'll be able to develop mastery after I have the recognition. But then, you know, life happens to you and, you know, hits you over the head. And then you realize that, well, maybe there's something that I already have mastery and or I'm on the way I'm on the I'm on that path already. Like I said, with the experiential stuff, I feel like I was happening to me, right. And then, and then there was a point that came for me a few years ago, you know, when I was like, I just want to be a creative director, I want to make amazing ads, I want to do incredible work. And, and of course, I would have my band on the side, and I want that to get recognition. But then I was like, you know what I do I actually want that I don't know that I actually want that. I think what I really want is just to keep doing what I'm doing and doing it better and better and better. So so that I don't want to manage people, like you said, I don't want to manage people, I don't want that job. I'm not an administrator. And you know, and I want to be in a band, but I don't want to be in a band that's so successful that I can't go to the grocery store in my pajamas. So so right right there. I'm
Unknown Speaker 28:15
like, I'm like, that is experiential right there. You're like, I want to have I want to have a big smorgasbord and have the end have the mastery, I see you, the mastery that you have in writing is the thing that enables you to have all these other these other experiences. Or maybe that's why I'm a good writer. Exactly. So good. So, so good. Well, for the first time in my life, I'm actually standing up for wrecking. I'm like shifting to actually to write more recognition and impact goals. I mean, you've been hearing me for the last two years talking about, you know, leveling up myself and my business and my impact across the board. And I'm okay, you know, not that I'm not going to have experiences again, or prioritize that as my next set of goals, but they are not my lead goal right now. Now, of course, in the pursuit of, you know, recognition and sort of being recognized in a particular domain. And, and, and really being purposeful about my impact in the world. Which I always did too, but like this is just now it's like the lead horse. I what is coming as sort of this it is causing me to have a varied set of experiences, but that but that that's an outcome of it, not the lead thing. So yeah, naming it and claiming our, our, our goals is a fun way for us to start learning that we can have all of them but maybe not all of them at the very same time and not to make ourselves wrong all the time not to be envious of others gold type, you know, just to be in our gold type. So really, really good. Okay, um, so I would like now to open it up to questions in the room. If there are any saw a few of them came through the chat. That's great. Let me see if I can scroll back through. If you have a question about that. Please put it into the chat again, so that I can see it here. Question for di see from Kelly. She says, Is it bad to be at the same organization for a long time? 15 plus years, I'm still growing and engaged and taking on new challenges. But I feel like I'm not ambitious enough. That's so interesting. I would say, Look, I don't love the super imposed ambition. And I think the question I would I would ask is, what is the source of that? Do you actually have desire for more ambition? Or do you feel pressure for more ambition? And I would say that if you had to pick between those two, and it was mostly pressure, for more ambition, I would then ask, Where is it coming from? And what is it for? And whose need actually is it? If it's not your need, then? You know, then you can put that down? Now the question around, is it okay to be at the same place for 15 years, of course, it is. If you're having the needs that actually matter to you met, you're feeling challenged, you're growing, you love your team, there's opportunity to have more impact, the things that matter to you to your goal, type or otherwise, are present. Of course, it's okay to stay for that long. I mean, it's when those things start to expire for you. And the the trough isn't as full and enriching anymore. That's the maybe moment to look at making a change. Now, I haven't been in house for 15 years, my my world has been one of being on the outside of organizations, and then going in and working with them. So but I but I, too, have noticed, like, when do I need to make a change in my own little enterprise so that I can continue to grow and challenge myself as well, and try to try to mute out those external pressures for me to achieve something. Whether it's something you know, that is, that is sort of the the typical look of ambition or not, that doesn't actually matter. To me, it is so much easier for us to try to go through the hard parts of achieving something that matters to us than it is to try to go through the hard parts to achieve something that matters to someone else. So that's my answer for you, Kelly, I hope that's really helpful. I see a Maya's question, which one I'm going to scroll back here, we've got what if I want to change my goal type? Is that is that the question? Can you let me know in the chat? If that's the question that you have you and carlina love to see you and Maya both in the chat here. Is that the question I'm answering? If it is, I would love to know that.
Unknown Speaker 32:46
I'm going to great. Um, yeah, she's she's saying she's just still stuck on embracing my goal type? Well, yeah, that's a challenge. And if you want to change your goal type, I would say, to find some opportunities to experiment with that. So if if you if you have one goal type, if you're like, I love lots of experiences, and I want to pick something and be masterful in it, I would want to run some experiments and see if that's actually true. To pick something that you think you'd want to develop mastery in, and then go try it. And if if it if it loses energy in a way that isn't alive for you and it stuff to be alive, stuffs being alive for you. Maybe that's not, you can put that down, you can put that gold type down for a little while. You say just that. It's just that you lean always towards recognition, but really would like to strive for being more ambitious, interesting, ambitious has come up twice. So I would address this by saying What does ambition look like to you? What does ambition look like to you? Yes, dollars. Great. That's a great hint. Because ambition might not look like just money recognition. or not, might not just look like recognition through money for one person. It might look like something else like title or you know your name or your your face on a billboard on the side of the freeway. So So when we think about ambition, we also have to think about what our definition of ambition truly is. I love this. Thank you so much. Okay, for those of you who are still on the call if you have it any other questions, and if you could stay muted that would be super, super helpful for keeping our audio really clean. Because we are going to turn this into an episode for all of our listeners at the Deobandi show a big podcast for women with goals. Ne Dean, I love seeing you hear so much you say that. You say impact maybe do you have any questions about your goal type? I'm super curious. I do know Nadine from outside of this call. I'm super curious what goal type you think you are I I think I have an idea of it. But I'm not totally sure how you would categorize yourself. So any other questions, you can drop them right into the chat. I'm going to scroll back and see what else we have here. And in the meantime, we know that in when we're coming to a close, we're going to be having another song from big surprise baby a and cat are going to sing us their second song, which I only got to hear a tiny smidge of earlier in the earlier in the day. And so I'll take Nathan's question and give me a thumbs up when you're all ready to rock. How about that? So needing or needing? That's not a question. I'm sorry, just to say that you say that you are an experiential, gold type. That's awesome. I love that I'm curious and subject expert. Yes, that's actually the one that I was gonna go for, for you that you know, you, you and I did some work together in your business. And it was, it was really wonderful to see how intricate your mind work when it came to the technologies that you're developing, that you're developing in your business and that you are really, I see you as an inventor. And in that way, I think that I can imagine that mastery is one of a strong goal for you. So I love that. Thanks so much for contributing. Okay, so is big surprise. Ready to rock? Yes, we are. Yeah. All right. See that everybody? Let's give them some claps. If you can find yourself a little, a little celebration emoji up in there. We'd love to see it as we go into our second song for the night.
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there it is. There's the champagne I bought for myself because we are officially launched at the DIA. Say you so much. Love, love, love that song. And I'm going to take just a little toast to you and everyone listening. Thank you so much big surprise. For having a blast this we will notify everyone who's listening over the podcast when big surprise actually releases, the songs that they're that they shared with us tonight and the rest of their album. So we're so happy to have all of you here tonight. Thank you so much for spending time with us love seeing you around the Deobandi show.
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